For some reason, Zach’s voice was really hard to listen to for this. He just didn’t feel very excited or engaged like a lot of other scientists I listen to, and I found myself looking at my phone way more than normal and having to go back and relisten to things. Then when I did, compared to hubermans amazing compliment at the end (which was nice and well said), felt a bit non deserving considering he dove really quick into deep mechanism (for example AGLP, leptin, GLP1) and never gave a basic or high level idea of what these are. So the narrative to me was missing. But the discussion on genetic vs environment I felt was important, and he indeed says its genetic but didn’t explain why enough to me. This was ok, but felt long even though only 2 hrs. The best part is the in depth of ozempic