The social interaction that occurs throughout this conversation abou social interaction is beautiful and heartwarming. The two of them knoow eachother already, but actively seem to learn from one another during the 2.5 hrs. Each have humility and excitement for one another that comes across in their voice and words. The right amount of time is spent on science and ‘nerd stuff’ (papers/mechanism), although maybe a bit light on mechanism for a huberman pod. Then they get into academia and Kay;s life and daily routine and purpose and mission and everything—all organically. This is a great podcast, interestingly huberman does a lot of good ones with powerful/strong women in academia (